Nerd Lunch Podcast 28: Alternate Star Trek

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Nerd Lunch Podcast 28: Alternate Star Trek

This week CT, Pax, and Jeeg are joined by blogger and Atomic Geeks superfan Chris Lockhart for a discussion of how Star Trek could have changed if some key events worked out differently.  What if Scotty was Irish instead?  What if Riker hadn’t grown a beard?  What if Janeway’s animal guide had been a lemur?  Actually we don’t talk about any of those scenarios, but the possibilities of a Star Trek without Shatner, the 1970s Phase II series, and Captain Riker are all on the agenda.  In our Nerd To-Dos, we find out which nerd is already making plans for season 2 of Sherlock and talk more about the Ghost Rider sequel than anyone could have expected.

And here’s the clip we refer to during the episode:

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3 Comments

  1. CT February 25, 2017 at 8:21 pm - Reply

    Agreed, Jack. Chris did a great job.

    Roddenberry was very much a large concept man, but when it came to writing a one-trick pony. But he assembled a great team to carry the series and make it what it became. I give him a lot of credit for Trek, but I personally have to give so many others equal amounts of credit.

    Maybe "Unsung Heroes" would make a good podcast topic someday.

  2. Chrisloc1701 February 25, 2017 at 8:21 pm - Reply

    Thanks Jack, I appreciate your kind words.

  3. Jack February 25, 2017 at 8:21 pm - Reply

    Greetings, gents. I could do a book on Star Trek, but I'll confine myself to a couple of points and move on.

    First, I had to reel my tongue back in when I saw that you had gone with Chris Lockhart as the guest on your Star Trek episode, this in view of the fact that you have access to a guy (modesty prevents me from naming names) who was 17 years old when the first series aired, and was there from the beginning. "That NEWCOMER??!?" I had to bite my tongue to keep from shouting. Well, having decided to listen to the piece anyway, all I can say is, that newcomer nailed it. In much the same way that newcomer William Shatner took over from established star Jeffrey Hunter, your episode would have been a pale shadow of what it is, had you not made the choice you did.

    Now, on the subject of Jeffrey Hunter: I have seen him in several movies. His filmography is posted on IMDB, and he has extensive credits in many major productions. I have indeed found his acting to be subdued, reserved, wooden if you like (akin to Lee Majors' style), but he had the insight to choose roles suited to that, basically, the stoic, somewhat reluctant hero. I think in the comparison between Kirk and Picard, we see Picard as the logical extension of today's astronauts, an established procedure for everything, and everything by the book; Kirk's motivation for everything seemed to be, "Is this going to be fun?" I further think that, had Jeffrey Hunter played Pike successfully, and TNG had been produced in its wake, we would today view Picard as the swashbuckler, and Pike as the by-the-book guy; he was that uptight.

    On Roddenberry-as-writer, in Stephen King's 1981 book Danse Macabre, in which he attempts to present the entire history of horror as entertainment, he prints the transcript of his interview with Harlan Ellison (pg 371-372 in the paperback applies). Ellison speaks of being brought in as a writer on the first ST movie. He recounts finally walking off the project because Roddenberry refused to relinquish any creative control whatsover. Understandable, as this was the first movie to present Roddenberry's greatest creation on the big screen; I might not want to give up anything either. The problem, according to Ellison, was that Roddenberry only knew one story: They found God, and God was insane. Looking back on Roddenberry's episodes in all the series, doesn't that suddenly jump out at you?

    Well, I'll let that stand for now. Heck of a job, Chris. My apologies for ever doubting you; I really couldn't have held your coat. Carry on, lads!

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