Nerd Lunch Podcast 186: Star Wars Return of the Jedi Drill Down

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Nerd Lunch Podcast 186: Star Wars Return of the Jedi Drill Down

Michael May and Kay return to discuss the last of the original Star Wars movies, Return of the Jedi.  We talk about the first time we saw the movie, our favorite scenes, our least favorite scenes, the Special Edition changes and more.

By | 2017-03-18T02:51:55+00:00 July 7th, 2015|Categories: Podcast|Tags: , , , , , , , |4 Comments

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  1. Shawn Robare February 26, 2017 at 12:48 am - Reply

    In defense of the title of the film, I personally don't think it was supposed to infer a mass return of Jedi into that world, I think it was about the shift in the balance of power. Even though Obi Wan was around in the first and Yoda in the second, the idea is that between the Emperor and Vader the dark side of the force had become dominant. This film sways the balance back to the side of the light, and the promise of a return of the Jedi order. Just my two cents.

    Also, in terms of the questions surrounding Luke becoming the advanced Jedi that he is (how was he trained, etc.), those are questions you do not want answered as I think seeing that stuff would fully diminish the mystique around his character and the Jedi in general. The training sequences with Yoda were great in the second film, but only because we got to see Luke try and fail. I'll be honest, I don't think watching someone succeed at training is enjoyable to watch. As an example I'd posit the training in Karate Kid. We're basically watching Daniel getting trained successfully, but what makes those scenes so great is that no one knows the training is happening and all we're seeing is our hero failing, or seemingly burdened.

    Going back to Luke, the idea of having him ripen so to speak between films is another of the Lucas mystery box elements that I think was intentional and well done. Remember, the audience has taken this journey with him over 6 years of their lives. Having him more or less fully ready by the third film is warranted, and to keep the mystique of the Jedi intact I think it was integral not to show him finding his grasp on the force. Also, the second movie already illustrated that he had learned techniques from his short time with Ben that he's been working on (like when he calms himself and reaches out to bring his lightsaber to him in the wampa cave.)

    The inference is that becoming a Jedi is part training, and part learning to feel for yourself how you connect to the force and it will guide how you utilize it by instinct and gut. It's like riding a skateboard or trying to do tricks on a bike. Sure, someone can show you how to get on a bike, how to pedal and turn the wheel, but you master riding by doing it, feeling how your body reacts to the speed, the feel of the bike, gauging your own thresholds of what you can do based on tempering your fear, etc. That stuff can't be taught. You just have to do it. It's how I learned how to draw, how to write, etc. <steps down off ROTJ soapbox)

  2. Brianiac5 January 15, 2019 at 10:31 am - Reply

    Empire is my favorite by just a hair, with Star Wars second. The only movie I like better than Jedi is Solo, and I’d put Rogue One at about the same level as Jedi. I do like a lot of the Rebels and Clone Wars episodes better than Return of the Jedi, though.

  3. Brianiac5 January 15, 2019 at 10:47 am - Reply

    I’ve always assumed Boba Fett was there for a completely different reason, such as having just returned to get paid for a new bounty. Then accompanies them to the Sarlaac because either he just really wanted to see them die or Jabba paid him to stick around for an extra day to provide some extra security for these high-problem prisoners.

  4. Brianiac5 January 15, 2019 at 7:08 pm - Reply

    Whether we accept the events surrounding Luke & Leia’s birth in Revenge of the Sith or not, Leia could easily be assuming her adoptive mother *is* her birth mother. Just because we know she was adopted doesn’t mean she does.

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